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Celerity

(54,017 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 06:48 PM Feb 2020

Bernie dropping like a rock on 538's overall primary forecast [View all]

1591 pledged delegates is a big key number

1591 or less for a total and Bernie is under 40%, which is a big psychological barrier if there is no one at 1990 and thus a first ballot winner.

If he rolls into the convention with only, say 39% of the delegates, and Biden is at say 35% (I am NOT saying these will be the totals at all) of the delegates, he will have a FAR harder time making a case than if he was at say, 45% and Biden at 29% At that point, a 45%-29% breakdown in Sanders' favour, it would be basically impossible to deny him the nomination, as the party would tear itself apart and we would lose to Trump even more likely than nominating Sanders would do.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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the winner needs a majority. dont fear bullying threats of one candidate who can't get a majority to msongs Feb 2020 #1
+1...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #28
Though the chances of a contested convention are rising Dopers_Greed Feb 2020 #2
Once Biden starts winning things could quickly flip his way. honest.abe Feb 2020 #7
So when will he start winning exboyfil Feb 2020 #27
I suspect that there would be some quick negotiations relayerbob Feb 2020 #9
Yeah. With these numbers, the only outcome more likely than a Sanders majority is... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #15
Must resist bullying in primary to crush the Big Bully in the General Election delisen Feb 2020 #3
I thought so. Predicting a primary is like predicting the weather 3 months from now. honest.abe Feb 2020 #4
For Sanders to win on the 1st ballot per this Moderateguy Feb 2020 #5
Can a candidate do that before the first ballot? still_one Feb 2020 #11
Yes- they can release their delegates before the first ballot.. Moderateguy Feb 2020 #12
Interesting, thanks still_one Feb 2020 #21
I thought that there was a rule that a candidate must have 300 delegates TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #20
Well that's a bit of good news today. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #6
Look out below! oasis Feb 2020 #8
I really wish Bloomberg would drop out still_one Feb 2020 #10
Im torn on that. honest.abe Feb 2020 #13
Why? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #14
? Dem Femme Fatale Feb 2020 #19
For Biden 15% and delegates from the huge CA pool is very important Amishman Feb 2020 #16
Very important that Biden gets 15% in CA flamingdem Feb 2020 #22
There is NO WAY anyone besides possibly Tulsi gets nothing out of California... Moderateguy Feb 2020 #23
thank you empedocles Feb 2020 #29
Interesting your comment about 40% being kind of a threshold. honest.abe Feb 2020 #17
Yes. This is a sign of hope, I think. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #18
You still trust 538 after their Clinton polling in 2016? intheflow Feb 2020 #24
the polls are the polls, I take everything w/ a grain of salt, but all trends point to a Bernie drop Celerity Feb 2020 #25
Hope so. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #26
Joe Biden has the strongest lead over Donald Trump among registered voters in battleground states. Gothmog Feb 2020 #30
How's Pete doing? melman Feb 2020 #31
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