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24. Bernie or Trump?
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:45 AM
Apr 2019

That oughtta be a no brainer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Favorite? itsrobert Apr 2019 #1
He's comfortably the favorite amongst those who have announced. Kentonio Apr 2019 #46
That is really meaningless in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #141
Having lots of supporters and donations is meaningless in the real world? Kentonio Apr 2019 #226
And if he decided NOT to run, obviously the math changes, too. Most likely his relatively huge.... George II Apr 2019 #160
BUT, who does the support shift to once candidates drop out????? Fla Dem Apr 2019 #172
Another way to say what you said is BlueWI Apr 2019 #198
You're completely right that second choices are critical here. Kentonio Apr 2019 #224
We have so many great candidates I cannot support Bernie but will if he is the nominee katmondoo Apr 2019 #2
Bernie would be a hard sell BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #3
Incorrect. Kentonio Apr 2019 #44
Trust me, his odds are zero. BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #63
Betting odds have very little to do with opinion or popularity contests. Kentonio Apr 2019 #67
Betting odds are also not fully formed until moments before the event. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #78
Very true. Kentonio Apr 2019 #100
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #142
Have we forgotten already that Trump is far, FAR more radical than Bernie has ever been? Kentonio Apr 2019 #223
If sanders is the nominee, yes that will be the result Gothmog Apr 2019 #227
Trump is an egotistical idiot Kentonio Apr 2019 #228
Absolutely. However the odds are clearly greater than "zero" that Sanders will be the nominee n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #114
Agree. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #115
1 To 20? True Blue American Apr 2019 #127
+1 BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #131
This conversation tells me we are so fucked. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #158
He's the only candidate who has ever won a state primary. BlueWI Apr 2019 #197
I'll rely on the American voters over a British bookmaker, thank you. George II Apr 2019 #162
Welcome to DU...it's your one month anniversary. TCJ70 Apr 2019 #74
Thank you for your best wishes BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #76
LOL!! artislife Apr 2019 #94
Umm.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #116
We're lucky to have scorekeepers on this site. George II Apr 2019 #163
I know right? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #200
Well it tends to even out us lurkers, ahoysrcsm Apr 2019 #213
Hillary supporters might dislike Bernie. But they hate Trump. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #75
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #4
Careful, this site has rules artislife Apr 2019 #96
To be clear? djg21 Apr 2019 #147
Careful. How about, "If he was still a Democrat"? Hortensis Apr 2019 #137
Is It Too Soon To Say...Yes Please Me. Apr 2019 #145
:) Maybe fantasizing ahead of time will chase away Hortensis Apr 2019 #152
Sanders' rally this past weekend gapaddy Apr 2019 #5
Yeah right, watoos Apr 2019 #16
Well... ahoysrcsm Apr 2019 #214
ROFL PDittie Apr 2019 #108
they didn't post the link because it is from the Trotskyite Democrat-hating World Socialist Web Celerity Apr 2019 #204
To remove trump from the WH Heartstrings Apr 2019 #6
Ditto - but I hope just once more in my life I can vote FOR a candidate not AGAINST someone else. Runningdawg Apr 2019 #87
I feel the same, Runningdawg! Heartstrings Apr 2019 #90
Yes I will, without a doubt. blue cat Apr 2019 #7
I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is but we are almost Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8
And any who wouldn't are unable to state so. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #132
Looks that way. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #208
...... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #9
k&r nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #14
yes comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #37
Mmm hmmm. totally agree. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #88
Excellent point, Loving. kag Apr 2019 #177
I'm a Democrat and I abqtommy Apr 2019 #10
My money and time will go to down-ticket Democrats. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #11
I think congress is where the power lies and delisen Apr 2019 #139
sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Apr 2019 #143
How so? Los of people motivated for delisen Apr 2019 #149
Democrats depend of African American voters and sanders is not popular with this base Gothmog Apr 2019 #176
+1. African-Americans are absolutely critical dalton99a Apr 2019 #199
Love The Question But Not Surprised To See Negative Replies corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #12
The only way we'd support Stein is radical noodle Apr 2019 #207
i will. i just hope i don't have to. every warren policy comes from same place. Defeat corruption Kurt V. Apr 2019 #13
Warren's agenda is closest to Bernie's watoos Apr 2019 #23
You mean Bernie's agenda is closest to Elizabeth's. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #161
I actually like both of their platforms BlueWI Apr 2019 #196
Warren is so much better on policy and the pathways to get legislation passed. octoberlib Apr 2019 #66
Warren has very well-thought-out policy ideas mcar Apr 2019 #69
Warren is competent and sensible, though, not an extremist. Hortensis Apr 2019 #157
Remember the speculation she would be Hillary's vp? Kurt V. Apr 2019 #169
I will support the Democratic nominee... louis c Apr 2019 #15
Yup Freddie Apr 2019 #18
I live among Trumpers in central Pa. watoos Apr 2019 #26
Ya, real easy to change Trump voters minds... louis c Apr 2019 #33
just ask them to explain to you their idea of socialism.. samnsara Apr 2019 #36
Am I the only one here that has tried to converse with a Trump voter... louis c Apr 2019 #59
No point,really. True Blue American Apr 2019 #129
We can't run a campaign on 'Get Trump out'. Kentonio Apr 2019 #50
We don't need to be in the mud, just not give the swing voters an excuse to re-elect him... louis c Apr 2019 #62
I don't reject your argument completely. The election has to be a numbers game. Kentonio Apr 2019 #65
White Collar Socialists? louis c Apr 2019 #92
Sorry, I meant blue collar (I'm full of cold today and my head is fuzzy) Kentonio Apr 2019 #102
Just pull the lever next to the candidates with the (D) after their names! nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #17
Only if they are actually a Democrat. itsrobert Apr 2019 #20
The only question is whether they are better than the R opponent. MH1 Apr 2019 #41
TOS shanny Apr 2019 #58
ELECT ALL THE (D)s then let leadership whip them into line DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #174
I have experienced holding my nose and voting democrat. In the 2016 general election. Snotcicles Apr 2019 #193
Lets reverse the question: murielm99 Apr 2019 #19
Yup. itsrobert Apr 2019 #22
Ridiculously obvious redstateblues Apr 2019 #72
The other candidates other than Tulsi or Biden watoos Apr 2019 #28
+1 that always was, and will remain, the question Ponietz Apr 2019 #30
i wondered that as well.. seeing it wasnt the 'other side' that voted for trump... samnsara Apr 2019 #32
Absolutely, and without question I'll support whoever wins. Kentonio Apr 2019 #53
Yep mcar Apr 2019 #70
Excellent question! Va Lefty Apr 2019 #154
"Support?" Nope. Vote for him against the orange shitstain? MANative Apr 2019 #21
Same here. murielm99 Apr 2019 #25
Bernie or Trump? pscot Apr 2019 #24
Some replies indicate "no." David__77 Apr 2019 #27
Why do you ask? radical noodle Apr 2019 #29
i dont see him winning the dem nom at all..BUT..IF he managed to then he wil get my vote.. samnsara Apr 2019 #31
My feelings exactly zeusdogmom Apr 2019 #126
The constant bashing of Bernie watoos Apr 2019 #34
Hillary didn't need superdelegates to beat Bernie, she won the nomination by comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #39
Many of the news channels were reading out totals that included superdelegates from the start Kentonio Apr 2019 #55
Then obviously Bernie didn't do enough to emphasize namahage Apr 2019 #125
Not on any of the news shows I watched. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #134
Isn't that same as what happened in 2008? delisen Apr 2019 #151
Yep, that and more. dogman Apr 2019 #206
They are not eliminated. There will be two votes instead of one. It is my opinion Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #45
Nobody here is bashing Bernie. But the GOP will certainly have an easy time of it. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #84
I give millennials a bit more credit than you do. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #91
Really, they are that immature? treestar Apr 2019 #121
The superdelegate nonsense is still false. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #203
Are you really undecided? redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #35
Just for the "know-it-alls" that have exposed their hands.. kentuck Apr 2019 #38
Thanks for following up. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #97
we don't have a luxury to not support our nominee in 2020, unless we were stupid and learned nothing beachbum bob Apr 2019 #40
Which is why we should not nominate an unelectable candidate Gothmog Apr 2019 #146
the way primaries work, we may not have a choice..... beachbum bob Apr 2019 #148
I agree about the money. I have given money to three candidates in the primary. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #166
sanders seems to think that he can win nomination with 30% of vote Gothmog Apr 2019 #181
30% of the vote won't get anyone enough delegates to win on the first ballot..... George II Apr 2019 #185
We do not need a repeat 1984 Gothmog Apr 2019 #211
Nate Silver- Sanders Can Win, But He Isn't Polling Like A Favorite Gothmog Apr 2019 #232
Bernie is hoping for a brokered convention. Gothmog Apr 2019 #233
I'll be voting absentee in Texas. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #42
So long as there are so many candidates in the race... kentuck Apr 2019 #52
Definitely, the sheer quantity of good candidates opens a window for him Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #61
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #43
This is true almlost a year before the first vote is cast, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47
I'd advice you to delete that post before it's reported on. It's against the rules of the site. Kentonio Apr 2019 #57
Against the rules to answer a question Mojo2 Apr 2019 #73
Yes it is. Kentonio Apr 2019 #99
You can speak honestly. No one forces you to lie. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #117
If he isn't a Democrat artislife Apr 2019 #101
Ultimately Joe Biden will be the Democratic Presidential candidate. democratisphere Apr 2019 #48
With all the problems snowybirdie Apr 2019 #49
It's 10 months to the first primaries. I'm interested in what happens during that time. Demit Apr 2019 #51
The only person I won't support if he wins the nomination prodigitalson Apr 2019 #54
Anyone who doesn't Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #56
Jeb Bush and John Kasich were also the frontrunners during this time period in 2015. octoberlib Apr 2019 #60
I don't think it's accurate to compare those two situations ... neither Kasich nor Bush had the mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #79
So I guess it doesn't look good for Biden... artislife Apr 2019 #103
I'll vote for Bernie if he's nominee, but I won't be happy about it. Paladin Apr 2019 #64
I find it interesting that this question is only asked about Bernie mcar Apr 2019 #68
That's the whole point LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #118
I disagree mcar Apr 2019 #165
only 2 candidates engender this Celerity Apr 2019 #167
There's a lot of "only mine" mcar Apr 2019 #168
I am happy no matter who wins, but my top choices are Celerity Apr 2019 #173
Doesn't matter if he's the early favorite because he isn't getting the nomination Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #71
I'm really hoping I don't have to make that choice ebbie15644 Apr 2019 #77
Are you fishing for hides? Amimnoch Apr 2019 #80
Nailed it. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #136
Debbie Wasserman Shultz won't... dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #81
There will be PLENTY of American voters who will NOT support Bernie...enough to give Trump the win. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #82
I will vote for the Dem candidate in November 2020 regardless of who it is. LonePirate Apr 2019 #83
Of course I'd support in the general but he has no path to the nomination madville Apr 2019 #86
This is not even primary season yet Skidmore Apr 2019 #89
Yes, those things bother me as well and WILL BE exploited by the GOP... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #113
Sorry, but if he gets the nod, he gets my vote. Baltimike Apr 2019 #93
This thread is useless and divisive Politicub Apr 2019 #95
If answers were allowed, I think it might surprise you. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #104
If people are really wavering about whether they will vote dem or sit it out... Politicub Apr 2019 #111
Ill vote Dem no matter what! Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #98
Okay everybody pack it up. Election over. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #105
I always vote for the Democratic nominee. Sometimes with less enthusiasm than at other Autumn Apr 2019 #106
Everyone should vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is. awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #107
Moot point aeromanKC Apr 2019 #109
Support or vote? frazzled Apr 2019 #110
How could we NOT? I can't bear the unthinkable--of Trump getting a second term. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #112
Moot point NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #119
Nobody here treestar Apr 2019 #120
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #122
Only fair enid602 Apr 2019 #123
Since we're doing what ifs. What if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, then declines it ... LuvLoogie Apr 2019 #124
The primaries (and the god awful caucuses) are a political eternity from toay. themaguffin Apr 2019 #128
Bernie's not the favorite. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #130
This.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #210
If Sanders is the nominee, he'll get my vote. I wonder if Biden is the nominee if David Sirota, still_one Apr 2019 #133
I think Sanders right now will get votes of former Trump voters delisen Apr 2019 #135
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #138
I will support the Democratic nominee Gothmog Apr 2019 #140
Bloomberg just had a segment on the "Bernie or Bust" faction. Sahil Kapur reported the statistics still_one Apr 2019 #144
All of those last three voted for Jill Stein and proudly proclaimed it. So how were they rewarded? George II Apr 2019 #170
yup still_one Apr 2019 #180
Apparently, we should be more worried about the opposite... KitSileya Apr 2019 #150
Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #190
sigh qazplm135 Apr 2019 #153
I will vote for him if he's the Democratic Candidate. FarPoint Apr 2019 #155
I will vote for him for one reason only tymorial Apr 2019 #156
That's a rhetorical question, isn't it? George II Apr 2019 #159
I Reject the premise Cha Apr 2019 #164
Yep mcar Apr 2019 #171
I reject wholeheartedly lying with the deluded deplorables quoted here: Hortensis Apr 2019 #175
Ye gods! What a Dip! Cha Apr 2019 #183
Lol. Not to worry. Once the Republicans, with their help, remove Hortensis Apr 2019 #188
According to Jim Messina, trump will beat sanders easily Gothmog Apr 2019 #178
Bernie looks like Trump's favorite. Trump will yell "socialist," "communist" and "wreck the best Doodley Apr 2019 #179
Yes, but it's a long time before nominee clear. I think Democrats want a winner in General Election. Hoyt Apr 2019 #182
He's the favorite among those for whom he is the favorite. MineralMan Apr 2019 #184
So now that it has had time to simmer, how's it going in here? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #186
Absolutely. I will support a ham sandwich if it gets the nomination over Trump Yavin4 Apr 2019 #187
trump Shows That He Is Totally Terrified Of Joe Biden Gothmog Apr 2019 #189
Wow looking at all the removed posts... jcgoldie Apr 2019 #191
The better question DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #192
Seriously? ehrnst Apr 2019 #194
I would vote for him. ecstatic Apr 2019 #195
Of course. Absolutely. Goes without saying. Codeine Apr 2019 #201
Not sure how he's the frontrunner. Outside of Emerson, which appears to be an outlier... TwilightZone Apr 2019 #202
Bernie pamdb Apr 2019 #205
IF he's our nominee -- which I doubt -- I'll vote for him, but it will be the most reluctant vote highplainsdem Apr 2019 #209
+1 MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #212
And again, not what we should be worried about.... KitSileya Apr 2019 #215
The "I'll vote for a woman, just not THAT woman" was pure bullshit. betsuni Apr 2019 #217
this jcgoldie Apr 2019 #218
So this 26% have no problem voting for a racist, sexist, and bigot. Definition of deplorable still_one Apr 2019 #220
The problem won't be supporters of the other Democratic candidates, it will be most likely some of still_one Apr 2019 #216
Ugh. betsuni Apr 2019 #219
I truly hope the Senator's supporters on DU KitSileya Apr 2019 #221
I agree, and that pertains to all of us still_one Apr 2019 #222
I found this tweet, which if true is horrifically eye-opening KitSileya Apr 2019 #225
Wow, As far as I was aware it was about 20%, and that was discouraging enough still_one Apr 2019 #230
I'll support and vote for the Democratic nominee. n/t sarge43 Apr 2019 #229
1 - Super doubt he will be the nominee. lark Apr 2019 #231
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