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Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:01 PM
Apr 2019

But there are a lot of swing voters out there that didn't support Hillary when she was. Bernie doesn't have to worry about the loyal base; but he does have to worry about the average voter out there who know nothing of politics and will be easily alarmed by Bernie's positions on the issues. We may agree, but the ignorant are the ones who decide (the ones in the swing states).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Favorite? itsrobert Apr 2019 #1
He's comfortably the favorite amongst those who have announced. Kentonio Apr 2019 #46
That is really meaningless in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #141
Having lots of supporters and donations is meaningless in the real world? Kentonio Apr 2019 #226
And if he decided NOT to run, obviously the math changes, too. Most likely his relatively huge.... George II Apr 2019 #160
BUT, who does the support shift to once candidates drop out????? Fla Dem Apr 2019 #172
Another way to say what you said is BlueWI Apr 2019 #198
You're completely right that second choices are critical here. Kentonio Apr 2019 #224
We have so many great candidates I cannot support Bernie but will if he is the nominee katmondoo Apr 2019 #2
Bernie would be a hard sell BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #3
Incorrect. Kentonio Apr 2019 #44
Trust me, his odds are zero. BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #63
Betting odds have very little to do with opinion or popularity contests. Kentonio Apr 2019 #67
Betting odds are also not fully formed until moments before the event. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #78
Very true. Kentonio Apr 2019 #100
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #142
Have we forgotten already that Trump is far, FAR more radical than Bernie has ever been? Kentonio Apr 2019 #223
If sanders is the nominee, yes that will be the result Gothmog Apr 2019 #227
Trump is an egotistical idiot Kentonio Apr 2019 #228
Absolutely. However the odds are clearly greater than "zero" that Sanders will be the nominee n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #114
Agree. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #115
1 To 20? True Blue American Apr 2019 #127
+1 BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #131
This conversation tells me we are so fucked. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #158
He's the only candidate who has ever won a state primary. BlueWI Apr 2019 #197
I'll rely on the American voters over a British bookmaker, thank you. George II Apr 2019 #162
Welcome to DU...it's your one month anniversary. TCJ70 Apr 2019 #74
Thank you for your best wishes BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #76
LOL!! artislife Apr 2019 #94
Umm.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #116
We're lucky to have scorekeepers on this site. George II Apr 2019 #163
I know right? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #200
Well it tends to even out us lurkers, ahoysrcsm Apr 2019 #213
Hillary supporters might dislike Bernie. But they hate Trump. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #75
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #4
Careful, this site has rules artislife Apr 2019 #96
To be clear? djg21 Apr 2019 #147
Careful. How about, "If he was still a Democrat"? Hortensis Apr 2019 #137
Is It Too Soon To Say...Yes Please Me. Apr 2019 #145
:) Maybe fantasizing ahead of time will chase away Hortensis Apr 2019 #152
Sanders' rally this past weekend gapaddy Apr 2019 #5
Yeah right, watoos Apr 2019 #16
Well... ahoysrcsm Apr 2019 #214
ROFL PDittie Apr 2019 #108
they didn't post the link because it is from the Trotskyite Democrat-hating World Socialist Web Celerity Apr 2019 #204
To remove trump from the WH Heartstrings Apr 2019 #6
Ditto - but I hope just once more in my life I can vote FOR a candidate not AGAINST someone else. Runningdawg Apr 2019 #87
I feel the same, Runningdawg! Heartstrings Apr 2019 #90
Yes I will, without a doubt. blue cat Apr 2019 #7
I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is but we are almost Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8
And any who wouldn't are unable to state so. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #132
Looks that way. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #208
...... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #9
k&r nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #14
yes comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #37
Mmm hmmm. totally agree. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #88
Excellent point, Loving. kag Apr 2019 #177
I'm a Democrat and I abqtommy Apr 2019 #10
My money and time will go to down-ticket Democrats. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #11
I think congress is where the power lies and delisen Apr 2019 #139
sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Apr 2019 #143
How so? Los of people motivated for delisen Apr 2019 #149
Democrats depend of African American voters and sanders is not popular with this base Gothmog Apr 2019 #176
+1. African-Americans are absolutely critical dalton99a Apr 2019 #199
Love The Question But Not Surprised To See Negative Replies corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #12
The only way we'd support Stein is radical noodle Apr 2019 #207
i will. i just hope i don't have to. every warren policy comes from same place. Defeat corruption Kurt V. Apr 2019 #13
Warren's agenda is closest to Bernie's watoos Apr 2019 #23
You mean Bernie's agenda is closest to Elizabeth's. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #161
I actually like both of their platforms BlueWI Apr 2019 #196
Warren is so much better on policy and the pathways to get legislation passed. octoberlib Apr 2019 #66
Warren has very well-thought-out policy ideas mcar Apr 2019 #69
Warren is competent and sensible, though, not an extremist. Hortensis Apr 2019 #157
Remember the speculation she would be Hillary's vp? Kurt V. Apr 2019 #169
I will support the Democratic nominee... louis c Apr 2019 #15
Yup Freddie Apr 2019 #18
I live among Trumpers in central Pa. watoos Apr 2019 #26
Ya, real easy to change Trump voters minds... louis c Apr 2019 #33
just ask them to explain to you their idea of socialism.. samnsara Apr 2019 #36
Am I the only one here that has tried to converse with a Trump voter... louis c Apr 2019 #59
No point,really. True Blue American Apr 2019 #129
We can't run a campaign on 'Get Trump out'. Kentonio Apr 2019 #50
We don't need to be in the mud, just not give the swing voters an excuse to re-elect him... louis c Apr 2019 #62
I don't reject your argument completely. The election has to be a numbers game. Kentonio Apr 2019 #65
White Collar Socialists? louis c Apr 2019 #92
Sorry, I meant blue collar (I'm full of cold today and my head is fuzzy) Kentonio Apr 2019 #102
Just pull the lever next to the candidates with the (D) after their names! nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #17
Only if they are actually a Democrat. itsrobert Apr 2019 #20
The only question is whether they are better than the R opponent. MH1 Apr 2019 #41
TOS shanny Apr 2019 #58
ELECT ALL THE (D)s then let leadership whip them into line DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #174
I have experienced holding my nose and voting democrat. In the 2016 general election. Snotcicles Apr 2019 #193
Lets reverse the question: murielm99 Apr 2019 #19
Yup. itsrobert Apr 2019 #22
Ridiculously obvious redstateblues Apr 2019 #72
The other candidates other than Tulsi or Biden watoos Apr 2019 #28
+1 that always was, and will remain, the question Ponietz Apr 2019 #30
i wondered that as well.. seeing it wasnt the 'other side' that voted for trump... samnsara Apr 2019 #32
Absolutely, and without question I'll support whoever wins. Kentonio Apr 2019 #53
Yep mcar Apr 2019 #70
Excellent question! Va Lefty Apr 2019 #154
"Support?" Nope. Vote for him against the orange shitstain? MANative Apr 2019 #21
Same here. murielm99 Apr 2019 #25
Bernie or Trump? pscot Apr 2019 #24
Some replies indicate "no." David__77 Apr 2019 #27
Why do you ask? radical noodle Apr 2019 #29
i dont see him winning the dem nom at all..BUT..IF he managed to then he wil get my vote.. samnsara Apr 2019 #31
My feelings exactly zeusdogmom Apr 2019 #126
The constant bashing of Bernie watoos Apr 2019 #34
Hillary didn't need superdelegates to beat Bernie, she won the nomination by comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #39
Many of the news channels were reading out totals that included superdelegates from the start Kentonio Apr 2019 #55
Then obviously Bernie didn't do enough to emphasize namahage Apr 2019 #125
Not on any of the news shows I watched. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #134
Isn't that same as what happened in 2008? delisen Apr 2019 #151
Yep, that and more. dogman Apr 2019 #206
They are not eliminated. There will be two votes instead of one. It is my opinion Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #45
Nobody here is bashing Bernie. But the GOP will certainly have an easy time of it. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #84
I give millennials a bit more credit than you do. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #91
Really, they are that immature? treestar Apr 2019 #121
The superdelegate nonsense is still false. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #203
Are you really undecided? redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #35
Just for the "know-it-alls" that have exposed their hands.. kentuck Apr 2019 #38
Thanks for following up. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #97
we don't have a luxury to not support our nominee in 2020, unless we were stupid and learned nothing beachbum bob Apr 2019 #40
Which is why we should not nominate an unelectable candidate Gothmog Apr 2019 #146
the way primaries work, we may not have a choice..... beachbum bob Apr 2019 #148
I agree about the money. I have given money to three candidates in the primary. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #166
sanders seems to think that he can win nomination with 30% of vote Gothmog Apr 2019 #181
30% of the vote won't get anyone enough delegates to win on the first ballot..... George II Apr 2019 #185
We do not need a repeat 1984 Gothmog Apr 2019 #211
Nate Silver- Sanders Can Win, But He Isn't Polling Like A Favorite Gothmog Apr 2019 #232
Bernie is hoping for a brokered convention. Gothmog Apr 2019 #233
I'll be voting absentee in Texas. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #42
So long as there are so many candidates in the race... kentuck Apr 2019 #52
Definitely, the sheer quantity of good candidates opens a window for him Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #61
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #43
This is true almlost a year before the first vote is cast, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47
I'd advice you to delete that post before it's reported on. It's against the rules of the site. Kentonio Apr 2019 #57
Against the rules to answer a question Mojo2 Apr 2019 #73
Yes it is. Kentonio Apr 2019 #99
You can speak honestly. No one forces you to lie. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #117
If he isn't a Democrat artislife Apr 2019 #101
Ultimately Joe Biden will be the Democratic Presidential candidate. democratisphere Apr 2019 #48
With all the problems snowybirdie Apr 2019 #49
It's 10 months to the first primaries. I'm interested in what happens during that time. Demit Apr 2019 #51
The only person I won't support if he wins the nomination prodigitalson Apr 2019 #54
Anyone who doesn't Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #56
Jeb Bush and John Kasich were also the frontrunners during this time period in 2015. octoberlib Apr 2019 #60
I don't think it's accurate to compare those two situations ... neither Kasich nor Bush had the mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #79
So I guess it doesn't look good for Biden... artislife Apr 2019 #103
I'll vote for Bernie if he's nominee, but I won't be happy about it. Paladin Apr 2019 #64
I find it interesting that this question is only asked about Bernie mcar Apr 2019 #68
That's the whole point LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #118
I disagree mcar Apr 2019 #165
only 2 candidates engender this Celerity Apr 2019 #167
There's a lot of "only mine" mcar Apr 2019 #168
I am happy no matter who wins, but my top choices are Celerity Apr 2019 #173
Doesn't matter if he's the early favorite because he isn't getting the nomination Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #71
I'm really hoping I don't have to make that choice ebbie15644 Apr 2019 #77
Are you fishing for hides? Amimnoch Apr 2019 #80
Nailed it. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #136
Debbie Wasserman Shultz won't... dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #81
There will be PLENTY of American voters who will NOT support Bernie...enough to give Trump the win. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #82
I will vote for the Dem candidate in November 2020 regardless of who it is. LonePirate Apr 2019 #83
Of course I'd support in the general but he has no path to the nomination madville Apr 2019 #86
This is not even primary season yet Skidmore Apr 2019 #89
Yes, those things bother me as well and WILL BE exploited by the GOP... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #113
Sorry, but if he gets the nod, he gets my vote. Baltimike Apr 2019 #93
This thread is useless and divisive Politicub Apr 2019 #95
If answers were allowed, I think it might surprise you. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #104
If people are really wavering about whether they will vote dem or sit it out... Politicub Apr 2019 #111
Ill vote Dem no matter what! Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #98
Okay everybody pack it up. Election over. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #105
I always vote for the Democratic nominee. Sometimes with less enthusiasm than at other Autumn Apr 2019 #106
Everyone should vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is. awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #107
Moot point aeromanKC Apr 2019 #109
Support or vote? frazzled Apr 2019 #110
How could we NOT? I can't bear the unthinkable--of Trump getting a second term. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #112
Moot point NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #119
Nobody here treestar Apr 2019 #120
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #122
Only fair enid602 Apr 2019 #123
Since we're doing what ifs. What if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, then declines it ... LuvLoogie Apr 2019 #124
The primaries (and the god awful caucuses) are a political eternity from toay. themaguffin Apr 2019 #128
Bernie's not the favorite. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #130
This.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #210
If Sanders is the nominee, he'll get my vote. I wonder if Biden is the nominee if David Sirota, still_one Apr 2019 #133
I think Sanders right now will get votes of former Trump voters delisen Apr 2019 #135
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #138
I will support the Democratic nominee Gothmog Apr 2019 #140
Bloomberg just had a segment on the "Bernie or Bust" faction. Sahil Kapur reported the statistics still_one Apr 2019 #144
All of those last three voted for Jill Stein and proudly proclaimed it. So how were they rewarded? George II Apr 2019 #170
yup still_one Apr 2019 #180
Apparently, we should be more worried about the opposite... KitSileya Apr 2019 #150
Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #190
sigh qazplm135 Apr 2019 #153
I will vote for him if he's the Democratic Candidate. FarPoint Apr 2019 #155
I will vote for him for one reason only tymorial Apr 2019 #156
That's a rhetorical question, isn't it? George II Apr 2019 #159
I Reject the premise Cha Apr 2019 #164
Yep mcar Apr 2019 #171
I reject wholeheartedly lying with the deluded deplorables quoted here: Hortensis Apr 2019 #175
Ye gods! What a Dip! Cha Apr 2019 #183
Lol. Not to worry. Once the Republicans, with their help, remove Hortensis Apr 2019 #188
According to Jim Messina, trump will beat sanders easily Gothmog Apr 2019 #178
Bernie looks like Trump's favorite. Trump will yell "socialist," "communist" and "wreck the best Doodley Apr 2019 #179
Yes, but it's a long time before nominee clear. I think Democrats want a winner in General Election. Hoyt Apr 2019 #182
He's the favorite among those for whom he is the favorite. MineralMan Apr 2019 #184
So now that it has had time to simmer, how's it going in here? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #186
Absolutely. I will support a ham sandwich if it gets the nomination over Trump Yavin4 Apr 2019 #187
trump Shows That He Is Totally Terrified Of Joe Biden Gothmog Apr 2019 #189
Wow looking at all the removed posts... jcgoldie Apr 2019 #191
The better question DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #192
Seriously? ehrnst Apr 2019 #194
I would vote for him. ecstatic Apr 2019 #195
Of course. Absolutely. Goes without saying. Codeine Apr 2019 #201
Not sure how he's the frontrunner. Outside of Emerson, which appears to be an outlier... TwilightZone Apr 2019 #202
Bernie pamdb Apr 2019 #205
IF he's our nominee -- which I doubt -- I'll vote for him, but it will be the most reluctant vote highplainsdem Apr 2019 #209
+1 MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #212
And again, not what we should be worried about.... KitSileya Apr 2019 #215
The "I'll vote for a woman, just not THAT woman" was pure bullshit. betsuni Apr 2019 #217
this jcgoldie Apr 2019 #218
So this 26% have no problem voting for a racist, sexist, and bigot. Definition of deplorable still_one Apr 2019 #220
The problem won't be supporters of the other Democratic candidates, it will be most likely some of still_one Apr 2019 #216
Ugh. betsuni Apr 2019 #219
I truly hope the Senator's supporters on DU KitSileya Apr 2019 #221
I agree, and that pertains to all of us still_one Apr 2019 #222
I found this tweet, which if true is horrifically eye-opening KitSileya Apr 2019 #225
Wow, As far as I was aware it was about 20%, and that was discouraging enough still_one Apr 2019 #230
I'll support and vote for the Democratic nominee. n/t sarge43 Apr 2019 #229
1 - Super doubt he will be the nominee. lark Apr 2019 #231
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