SFChron: Is Trump preparing to invoke the Insurrection Act? Signs are pointing that way

[Dennis Donovan]

SFChron - Is Trump preparing to invoke the Insurrection Act? Signs are pointing that way (Gift link)

A joint Department of Defense and Homeland Security report will soon recommend whether or not to invoke the Insurrection Act over illegal migration

By Brett Wagner
March 5, 2025

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Despite the logistical complexity, not to mention the sheer size of U.S. territory and population, implementing martial law could move quickly. Take that city in Colorado, for example:

For months leading up to the election, Trump and his surrogates spread wild lies about Aurora, promising extensive immigration raids, if elected.

Aurora just happens to already have its own Immigration and Customs Enforcement office, plus a military base, which has just been tapped to serve as a “temporary” detention center.

Project 2025 further proposes to push past Trump’s plan — already in progress (but reportedly being phased out), to house up to 30,000 detainees on a rolling basis at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — by bringing Guantanamo to a town near you: setting up additional Guantanamos scattered out all across the country.

One such potential Guantanamo I believe to be under consideration is the former Leavenworth Detention Center, a former outpost of our nation’s for-profit “prison industrial complex” located near Kansas City, Mo. Nearby residents are up in arms, hoping to prevent the site, previously closed due to egregious human rights violations, from being reopened. I recently made a trip to see it and was horrified by the thought of hundreds, if not thousands, of undocumented families being herded there like the cattle who graze across the street.

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[JohnSJ]

1. If that happens, and the courts don't rule against it, I think it is time for like minded states to consider secession.

[LudwigPastorius]

9. Unfortunately, the Court has ruled that...

“the authority to decide whether [an exigency requiring the militia to be called out] has arisen belongs exclusively to the President, and . . . his decision is conclusive upon all other persons.” This in Martin v. Mott.

So, the Supremes would have to reverse an earlier decision in order to stop Trump from invoking the act based on immigration being an "insurrection".

[keep_left]

11. We're already beginning to see the early signs of "soft secession"...

...in this country. It's been occurring for the past few years at least, and arguably much longer.

It started with things like sanctuary cities, ignoring FDA scheduling of cannabis, the devolution of abortion law to the states, and other similar movements over the last 20 years or so. And the ties that bind were further stressed by the Trump regime's disastrous mismanagement of Covid...I really wonder what the country is going to look like in another 20 years.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219688375#post12

https://democraticunderground.com/100219672176#post3
https://democraticunderground.com/100219025512#post26
https://democraticunderground.com/100219019557#post2

[travelingthrulife]

2. Nazis gotta Nazi

When will our law enforcement and judicial system wake up?

[ScratchCat]

3. Not this again

They can't wand will not "declare martial law" over immigration. FFS, this stupidity.

[travelingthrulife]

5. But he will do it and then the courts snarl themselves up arguing about it.

[ScratchCat]

6. No he wont

Martial law means we don't get up the next day and go to work or school; the stock market crashes to nothing by the end of the day; nobody has to follow any local laws anymore; stores are closed; people are shooting each other over a can of dog food.

Martial law does not mean "everything stays the same except Trump gets to use the military to remove illegals". That's what some are trying to pretend it means. It doesn't. The fact that there isn't one iota of a reason for this(are Republicans congressmen calling for martial law? No!) and not any possible justification, it will not happen and he would be immediately removed if he attempted it. Again, what in hell would be the justification for shutting down the country? Billionaires lose everything.

[chia]

8. Russell Vought (Architect of Project 2025, current director of OMB) sure likes the Insurrection Act:

Vought laid out how his think tank is crafting the legal rationale for invoking the Insurrection Act, a law that gives the president broad power to use the military for domestic law enforcement. The Washington Post previously reported the issue was at the top of the Center for Renewing America’s priorities.

“We want to be able to shut down the riots and not have the legal community or the defense community come in and say, ‘That’s an inappropriate use of what you’re trying to do,’” he said. Vought held up the summer 2020 unrest following George Floyd’s murder as an example of when Trump ought to have had the ability to deploy the armed forces but was stymied.

https://www.propublica.org/article/video-donald-trump-russ-vought-center-renewing-america-maga

[ScratchCat]

10. But that has nothing to do with immigration

"Shutting down riots" would be an appropriate useage of the Act if they were widespread enough that they were causing severe economic disruption(And no, the summer of 2020 didn't reach that level).

[chia]

13. They're actively planning to use it when the right situation gives them the opportunity,

whether it's immigration or something else, it's part of their strategy, so no, I don't think the OP is far-fetched.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Capital would definitely flee.

[The Wizard]

4. He's anti American

and wants to impose Putin's style of condign obedience. There's no nice way to say Nazi . He'll make life untenable to the point of people taking to the streets. That will be followed by his brownshirts rooting out Democrats for "special treatment."

[RJ-MacReady]

7. Blue states

Need to get ahead of this and begin replacing commanders who would obey such orders.