and everywhere i turn and look, i am hearing whining about HOF. as we are looking at a world of mess.

and i say

really dudes and the few dudettes.

both sites. hof this and that. there is a fuggin list pinned on us. (this takes me to an interesting list thread yesterday. it totally confused me. but, i became the target, it seemed. not real clear on that.) sigh. we have a list on us, on another board. a list with our names. AA and women. now, will this post be hidden? because i am talking about us on a list, that is allowed. this is not making sense to me.

i just read a title. girls do not have the right to bare arms in utah. gigglin... ya. that. after i had just got done reading about texas men walking around with guns... intimidating an unarmed marine.... cause he dared to say something. and this groups of cowards with guns.... bullying on the street.

after a week of conversation about a 22? yr old vioce of hate, of women and mass murder.

and when in conversation. talking about all this hate toward women and girls. our death. i hear people talking about hof women being the very worst people ever.

and i say again.

really?

anyone else?

from that perspective. i was not seeing that at all. the thing. i am pretty literal in that area. and what i do. i can not see any laws broken. at all.

so i ask, what would be the point. what would be the action.

we see literal RAPE of an underage girl on internet, and harassed to her death. nothing. he did not threaten to rape me, he mouthed off a porn scene for himself to get off on.

now. isnt that what we fight for on du????? all these men to legally create women as their porn to get off on? didnt he just take this from the step of "actor", to a RL person being his actor... i feel so japan. and their (without a live person) sticky hands.

isnt that all that bottomfeeder did? what men continually and consistently, repeatedly do to women? that we try to give a teachable moment, and they all cry their right... to make some strange woman their porn?

i mean. literally, we have duers that say you are NOT a democrat if you do not support, encourage, applaud his RIGHT to do just this to women.

is this not where the "battle" is? them fighting for their right to do exactly what this bottomfeeder did. adn my right to not be made this bottomfeeders fuckin porn.

so.... do you see my conflict.

i listen to what you say here, and ya. duh. really? and ya... to all you say. the silence....

here the crickets in the wind.

very interesting. fug. i just came seeing more and more interesting. that is why i wanted to start the thread. not a fun thread for sure. but... "Teachable moments," i will take it. it has taught me a hell of a lot. as did another thread, that has crickets... my 200 girls. that has been a huge "Teachable moments," for me.

just makes me that much smarter. grounded. strong. articulate and precise.

kick ass ready

so, the guys..... may not want to embrace the teachable moment, but.... even in their silence, cause i love to learn to get that much better, i will take that "Teachable moments,"

then???

just get louder, bolder, stronger.

it is all good.

i have been having an issue watching the plea for the 200 girls, and who is posting, and the cry out for the girls. girls. stolen. to be bought for a mans use. the demand. these men had a demand. and that demand is being met.

so often on du, such a contentious conversation with the demand. in the u.s.

the demand.

the demand to be able to pay for a body.

the demand to have women strip for a man.

the demand a woman is video'd, submitting, being humiliated, violently used, .... degraded.

the demand for rape porn. that is actually rape. of these 200 girls.

who is the greatest suppler? the third world. who is number one in demand? the u.s. and that comes in the form of prostitute, stripper and porn. men demanding. and pimps providing.

but... here in the u.s. if our demand results in paying a pimp? that is consent. ergo, her being used, against her will cause she was stolen, is ..... two consenting adults.

daily. our girls and woman, and ... boys are stolen. daily. and they are sold. held capitive. used and abused. daily.

when a few of us women discuss it on du, the very people starting these threads refuse, literally refuse that information. at all cost. wrapping slavery up in a pretty bow.

so.... watching these threads have been a challenge. cause ya. 200 girls in our fuckin face, stolen. clear.... what the demad is. and their right to it.

as i know.... that happens daily and we ignore.

so when people say. what would happen if that was the u.s. or white. i think.... what would happen? we would deny. pretend. tell ourselves a story. aggressively deny. verbally attack and accuse. threaten.

there has been such a huge in our face, disconnect here. anyone else?

he wants me raped.
he wants me to choke on cum.
he wants me on all four.
big * cock shoved in mouth

*right here i ask, respectfully. this is what was told to me, on du. it still sits there in transparency for all to see and read. how a man. on du. says he wants me raped. (does he want to rape, i ask?). wants me to choke on cum. wants me on all four. wants a cock shoved in my mouth. now jury. it sits there, for all to read. surely, as the person that actually experienced this, surely as a feminist, in a feminist group, discussing the topic of a man on du wanting me raped, on all fours....

surely i can discuss this in History of Feminism in the crude, vulgar, offensive, filth. surely... i do not have to soften this filth. i do not have to soften the discussion. i do not have to soften.... my fuckin voice)

because i was told, by a man on du. he wants me raped.

i have thought about this the last couple days.

already. a woman has gotten a post hidden. for being disgusted there was a poster that said that shit to me.

that says something.

i am not looking at this from an emotional position. i know. that is the first, quickest, laziest go to for anti feminists. i am not looking at this from an emotional position. though.... i certainly feel a hell of a lot, a man on du telling me he wants me to be raped.

i am certainly not coming from the position of religion. prude. yada yada. not having vapors. or fainting on any damn couch. inevitably, my posts are hidden cause i say it the way it is. the reality of it. the actual words.

and THAT..... is offensive.

can you believe.

anyway. a feminist. a woman. older. wiser. ..... two teen boys dealing in this shit. two nieces dealing in this shit.

this shit.

right here.

i am addressing this in a more academic, intellectual manner. you know. using the brain. not the dick, not the gut, not the heart. or bible.

lets see what happens here. i have been on du over a decade. a lot of time. a lot of talking. a lot of listening. those that fight me most talk censorship. freedom of speech.

yet.... lets really see what their demands are. often, it is a ... shut the fuck up. women. we get it all the time. right?

i love it. got this song. "nelson in jail. simpson on the mountain???

didnt give a fuck." it is a song.

i tell you. i am ready to walk. i do not know what i want to do. but... listening to this song. i gotta get up and dance. lol. so leaving it here.

"mohummund ali has won

by a knock down. by a knock down"

i need to find out who wrote it. my son gave me my music. love the song.


point. then i am going for a walk.

i dunno. doesnt it just seem to matter. that we would have a man say this shit. ????

talking about male ego. and how it must be coddled.




lol lol. and on edit.... to clearly say. i need no sympathy or condolences or anything. pffft. some nobody is talking like he is doing a porn shit.

pffft. right? cause it is not like it is not continually in our lives anymore.

just all that this says. after a decade...

this is where we sit.

we do not use wrong numbers cause we do not have our right numbers. that is not logical. that does not make sense. and surely, that is the characteristic of man.... that women lack right? being logical. and not hysterical.

wrong numbers are simply that.... wrong.

i was right about fbi. cause they are obviously wrong. years of being attacked by men on du, holding up the fbi numbers and telling me to CELEBRATE the amazingly, totally awesome, significant reduction of rape. as i listen to my girls and womens rape stories.

it was bullshit. we women knew it was bullshit. and we were being snarked at, scorned, ridiculed to swallow MANS bullshit.

no

those are the two keys. and this is the blind we live... and the damage it creates eventually.... we live blind until we see.

erection. demanding ALL our lives evolve around erection. not even my erection. mans erection. they have nothing else to hold the power..... but have now bottomlined it to the erection.

it cannot control and dominate with intelligence anymore, gun can and other as awareness can lesson thru strength, cannot control thru finance, we are taking care of ourselves. man cannot control thru law... though they are still trying, that ship sailed. they are losing control thru shame, humiliation, inferior, though it still has some hold. too many women have and are putting that aside.

what is truly left for man... to control and dominate the inferior woman? and the only thing they have left is the erection.

very interesting.

and the increased interest on dworkin... lmFUCKINao. you see it. the thread is continuing. i am suppose to be in reading and i have not felt like it. but....

the almighty erection which is taking me to the one movie. ryan, the muscle dude in xman movies, and the other dude. wtf is that movie. oh.... erection and the goofy dude keeps laughing cause he said erection. gonna see it i can find that clip. i am in the mood. it would help if i could remember the name of the movie.

interesting thoughts redqueen.




it is so fuggin funny and exactly what we are talking about. i often go into a chuckle thinking about this scene, reading some of the posts on du.

have we totally ignored our young girls and their plight. there is not even a thought. a second thought. much less a third thought that forever girls too are effected. has nothing to do with what boys are wearing. and yet.... we are shamed, must hide it or ignore it.

and the boys????

OMG. it is uncontrollable. it is all that. it is is is

well. i cannot even get near telling you all that it is for a boys

THOUGH

those of us with sons and connected and close as they grew up knows exactly what it is. those of us with brothers. those of us that have men in our lives

we know the reality of it

and that reality is this pure bullshit and all about ego.

no. i have not read. as i say thru out this thread. as i have said whenever the men bring up dworkin, for us duers to have to address, once again.

you men always make me desire to read dworkin. a need a want a must..... to read dworkin. you all make her sound so very very very interesting. such a character, full of life. you show me her smarts. i just want to see how smart

so, no. i have not read

yes. i do want to read. looking to down load and have a book read and discussion in hof.

thanks guys.

that is why thru out my posts in this thread i do not specifically talk about her and what she says. as if i understand. i readily leave it to those that have read and can articulate. hence, me directing you to those posts in this thread. mace would be one. and lyric. as i directed you. answering your comments specifically and academically. so any 8th grader can understand.

and that would be why i am mainly focusing on husband allowed to rape their wives into the 90's. because that mattered. that, i get. that, is fact. and that has a lot to do with the feminists mind set in the 70's. as you, a man, that was legally able to rape me, a wife..... (figuratively), i think i get to have a greater stake in it than you do.