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The Executive Branch all the way down to local police departments DO have a hand in all this

They are direct and indirect instigators of violence and let it happen.

This is what happens when you have a government that handles white nationalist terrorists with kid gloves. We see a segment of the population rationalized away as "playful scamps". It's not subtle, not subtle at all, I think every other group with ideas for violence can look at this say "Why not us too? Can we get the government to handle US with kid gloves?"

This is what happens you "other" violent people instead of telling people to look in the mirror. When people are "mentally ill" you don't have to change anything about society, it's "just a disaffected individual". When a "terrorist" is some scary Muslim instead of Billy "the 'misunderstood kid' from down the street", you don't have to change anything about your neighborhood or how you see the world, esp. with people who look just like you. The government has created a culture that pretty much says "I'm not violent because I'm not the other, I'm not mentally ill!" and "My actions can't be terrorism, I'm not a Muslim, I'm not some foreigner!"

This is what happens when you take white shooters out to get Burger King.

This is what happens everything is a "war on something"... "war on terror", "war on drugs", "culture wars", "clash of civilizations", hey, if you say "Happy Holidays", then you are waging a "war on Christmas". We have over-militarized our culture and anyone else is the enemy for anyone at any time.

This is what happens when you don't have good education and public mental health. There has been a socially constructed world of frightening binaries and polar opposites created because our culture abhors nuance and deliberation. Someone can't even say "Black Lives Matter" without being told "Well actually, all lives matter". Your Patriot Prayer groups, your Back the Blue groups, they wouldn't exist without protesters. They need an enemy, they got it.

This is what happens you see violence as a force of cleansing, as some sort of "return to innocence". The "coming storm" that will wipe away all the "Satanic Cabal members". Looting as the "transition to freedom" according to Donald Rumsfeld.

This is what happens when you rely on "out of sight, out of mind" and "running out the clock" as ways of dealing with issues. We've got a potus who was elected by people who hope the rapture will be their ticket out of any problems they create. Going on down, we've got the blue wall of silence that blocks discussion of police brutality and corruption. Things aren't subtle, things aren't hidden anymore. We all know that the first thing the government from top to bottom wants is not to "end or reduce police brutality and systemic racism" but to "end or reduce *DISCUSSION OF* police brutality and systemic racism"

Every broken window, every smashed business, it has the government's fingerprints all over them.

What does a soft-resignation look like?

Has Trump soft-resigned from the office of President?

He has abandoned responsibilities (Sometimes openly declaring he is not responsible) in regards to:

* Responding to the coronavirus pandemic

* Defending our nation against white nationalist terrorism / Boogaloo Boys / radical right terrorism

* Defending the country from outside election interference

* Riots and violence

He has, through a combination of neglect, insinuations and conspiracy theories, and active attacks caused damage to:

* Confidence in our elections

* The United States Postal Service

* Our public health infrastructure

* And done more damage to these systems than ISIS, MS-13, or any other so-called Republican-deemed "existential threat" could have ever hoped of doing.

One could have a random person as president, nobody as president, and Trump as president... Trump is lower than "nobody as president"

He has abandoned responsibility and done more damage to our country than "existential threats" have, there is no merit and no gain to say he is the legitimate president at this point.

He told us he'd end "American carnage", he told us how he'd do it...

The solution to the immigrants crossing the border? Build a wall! Detain them! Send them back to governments and organizations that want to kill them!

The solution to black people who have the audacity to say their lives matter? Drive your car into them! give them "rough rides"! That'll teach 'em!

The solution to Muslims being different? Torture them! Kill their families!

When people who attend his rallies and wear his gear are the ones shooting Americans and shooting up schools and churches? Uh... don't "antagonize them"? If they're an incel and you're a woman, maybe you should just have sex with them? Take them out to Burger King?

How are you supposed to "compromise" with this?

57 percent of Republican respondents said the U.S. death toll for COVID-19 has been “acceptable,”
-https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213957484

I seriously doubt I am the only one here who thinks that every disease is worthy of one thing... eradication.

There is no "acceptable" death toll for disease; I didn't say it under Obama, I'm not saying it under Trump, I'm not going to say it under Biden, I'm not going to say it for any leader anywhere.

I don't care if it's COVID.
I don't care if it's influenza.
I don't care if it's HIV.
I don't care if it's malaria.
I don't care if it's polio.
I don't care if it's measles.
I don't care if it's sleeping sickness.

Any death from any disease in any country should be considered a policy failure.

If an "acceptable death toll" from any disease is considered the "reasonable" position while striving to drive diseases to extinction and considering deaths from disease to be policy failures is "radical", then go ahead and call me radical.

I hope these 4 years have given us wisdom to roll our eyes when certain people talk of "sacrifice"

"Sacrifice"... what does that mean?

Give up sex?

Give up pleasurable experiences?

Going on a hunger strike?

Voluntarily go from the upper crust of society and live among the lower classes?

Forsake some sort of high-end "destiny" for yourself that you were promised?

Letting go of something so someone else may benefit?

And then I hear the Trump family talk of sacrifice, what does that even mean?

No Trump has to skip a meal in that family.

No Trump has to put off college so the bills could be paid.

No Trump has to choose between paying utilities or getting their prescriptions.

It's funny, on January 21, 2021; I am sure the past 4 years will have seem like a bad dream that we are waking up from... Right wing evangelicals will be busy quietly deleting all their proclamations declaring that the President is selected by God and that resisting the President is the same as resisting God, QAnon types will be clamming up, Republicans will be saying they "never REALLY supported him", I am thinking this period of time, politically speaking, will be an asterisk or a blur.

But, I do genuinely hope that we keep a skepticism of when the elite and powerful talk of "sacrifice" like they're down here with us. Demolish Trump Tower then you can talk of "sacrifice".

Donald Trump has officially ended any conservative/Republican right to use "elitist" as a slur

If you are cheering on Donald Trump's tweet that people living in suburbs won't have to be bothered by the poors anymore in any way, then yes, you are an elitist.

You can spin it any way you want... call it "I care about my property value" until your face turns blue, point is, you don't want "those people" in your sight and in your mind.

It's elitism at the rawest.

Get your practice in now, peeps

The Tennessean ― the state’s most widely circulated daily newspaper ― is facing intense scrutiny after publishing an anti-Muslim ad in its Sunday print edition that claimed “Islam” planned to detonate a nuclear bomb in Nashville.

The full-page ad, paid for by what appears to be a Christian doomsday cult, featured a banner at the top that included images of President Donald Trump, Pope Francis and American flags engulfed in flames.

...

The Tennessean said it’s launching an investigation into how the ad, which the paper said clearly violates its standards, came to be published.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-tennessean-islamophobic-ad_n_5eef957ec5b615bc9414b0d7
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142520137


Here's a screenshot from the site today... July 18, 2020:



As of right now, Nashville has yet to be nuked by... (sigh)... "Islam".

So on that note, be sure to start screencapping things like this tweet for example which can be found at:
https://twitter.com/andrewsjd/status/1191883168095318017



Things like "the president is our parallel to a king" and "the president is selected by God" might just start magically disappearing soon, especially after November and really kicking into high gear after January 20, 2021. Better archive them for, you know, posterity.

"Own the libs" - Did Trump even succeed at THIS as the US increasingly looks at hard left ideas?

"Own the libs", it's a purely id-driven thing... Sticking it to the liberals, measuring how good X is by nothing else other than how much liberals are hurt or humiliated by that X.

Vote for Trump to "own the libs"
Pardon Joe Arpaio to "own the libs"
And more:
The Summer’s Hottest Trend Is Owning the Libs
Governing by Owning the Libs
How 'owning the libs' became the ethos of the right
Trump's new website is all about how to own the libs during the holidays

When Democrats briefly had the White House, House, and Senate back when the "socialist Muslim antichrist" Obama was president; "Defund the Police" wasn't on the table, "Autonomous Zones" weren't on the table, "Guaranteed Minimum Income" wasn't on the table, "ANTIFA IS COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU" wasn't a thing, the NRA wasn't on it's last legs, there's wasn't as much looking at white nationalists and the far-right as terrorist entities as there is NOW, and I think one could even bring up more things.

The right spent years, YEARS, demonizing liberals and liberalism... any accusation you could make: soft on terror, soft on crime, sexual deviant, want to use drugs, coddle criminals, want to spend money on post-modern art over police spending, take your guns, liberals aren't just wrong but EVIL, turn "liberal" itself into a pejorative. And to what? Eliminate a whole side of the political spectrum? What did they think was going to happen? That we'd have a one-winged political system?

The thing about liberals is that they ultimately work inside the system, right? Reform, change through legal and political means, and compromise. You right-wingers made them invisible, tried to turn liberal itself into a bad concept, and look at what happened. You unleashed the beast when you started on this path and got it to a fever pitch with "own the libs" as a campaign strategy.

It's funny how ultimately those "crazy liberal" positions are starting to look like the reasonable positions as we're going from "HAHA OWN THE LIBS" to "SAVE US, LIBERALS". But don't worry, there will be accountability for all the blood and damage it took to get here.

Dislike Antifa? Blame the GOP. Barely even a thing until they partnered with the worst of America

I'm getting the sense that Antifa in the US up until a couple of years ago consisted of some hoodlums and some bookstores in Portland, Oregon.

I'm in the ballpark, yeah?

So take a look at this:

The first mention of Antifa in the United States in Wikipedia

That date is August 8, 2017.

And I looked at this, and I thought to myself, why is that date so peculiar? What stands out about it?

A couple of days later, the Unite the Right rally happened; August 11.

The page for the Unite the Right rally is older than the Antifa in US page, here is one such edit made, made on August 7, it describes antifa as "ANTIFA" (Yes, in all caps) and leads to the "anti-fascism" page (Telling, right?)

So here's another edit on August 7. And this is where I find it even more interesting.


Pay attention to this image, it's the template for a civil conflict.

It's weird how a bunch of anarchists nobody knows about and you think their name is an acronym with the whole ANTIFA thing I guess, but you know they will show up, and you know they will come in numbers that will be equal to that of the side they are against? Come on! There was an expectation that they would be "one side" to "both sides" of this conflict.

This template was used with "ANTIFA (Planned)" or some version of "ANTIFA" was used on and off. Most notably here, it includes a passing reference to what we would all come to know as the white nationalist terrorist car attack that murdered Heather Heyer, who was practicing her first amendment rights and was not a member of "ANTIFA".

So what's the point of highlighting this edit warring?

I'll go ahead and tell you... it's a microcosm showing that we knew, we all knew, nobody anywhere has any excuse to know that some group like antifa was not going to be the response to neo-nazis, white supremacists, these Qanon fairy believers, and so on. Antifa was one wing of the bird, what was the other wing? That was the wing driving cars into protesters, saying they couldn't wait for the "liberal genocide" and deportations of Jewish people to begin, the wing screaming "all lives matter" but shooting arrows at people, the ones talking about martial law and waiting for the "storm" to begin, making up conspiracy theories about "white genocide" and "cultural marxism" and on and on.

And it was one party giving a wink and a nudge to those people above, one party made this extremism possible, one party normalized this rhetoric, and it was one party counting on this response.

Every claim that antifa is "terrorist" or every building burned in their name; I, for one, will always see "Republican Party" right behind it.

Trump Vodka, Trump Steak, Trump Water may have gone bust, but there are WINNING Trump-brand products

The Trump Blame-Game:
1. Never take responsibility
2. When pressed, blame someone else, anyone else
3. When pressed further, blame Obama
4. See #1 when #3 fails

The Trump Bus:
May not be very efficient, but it is GREAT that scapegoats and former henchmen can go under it with ease

The Trump Bunker:
Great for when you don't want to deal with worsening situations and your leadership skills are lacking
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